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World Cup - Socceroos

Post by Dv8 » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:11 am

How sweet was the Australian victory over Japan in the World cup last night :) ...I'm not a big soccer fan but that was kickass

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Post by quickurn » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:20 am

bloody oath mate...had me on the edge of my seat. Gotta hand it to Japan's goal keeper though...made some great saves. Just not enough though :lol:

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Post by Guest » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:45 pm

Inspirational stuff!

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Post by aka_Aussie » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:33 pm

Fantastic result, I think justice was served, after the ref's big mistake awarding Japan's goal 8)

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Post by tpg » Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:40 pm

GOOOOOOOOAAAAL!!!!!!

Any excuse to get pissed is good enough for me - be it against Japan, Brazil...

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They deserved it

Post by frodo8 » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:18 am

We won, and we won without cheating (are you listening Japan?), we didnt milk fouls or stop our opponents game flow by faking a hammy injury (still listening Japan?) and we deserved it.

They played all match at a great level!

Suck the puss Japan, theres no honour in cheating

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:45 pm

Settle down frodo8... you play the game at that level and see what you do.
We won, don't have to act like a bad winner and a retard.

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Post by quickurn » Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:33 pm

lol...the thing is...yeh...japan did try and milk fouls...BUT...Mr Kewell himself did the same thing at one stage of the game....EVERY team does it...that's what put me off watching football for ages...but i will definately be watching or recording the aussies next match against Brazil...should be interesting since they only beat Czech republic 1-0....

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Post by frodo8 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:23 am

Shaggie wrote:Settle down frodo8... you play the game at that level and see what you do.
We won, don't have to act like a bad winner and a retard.
It was the most mild thing i could have said :)

The comment was made in the heady afterglow of our win, ive mellowed since then :)

Thank god at least im not one of those 15 million or so Aussies who became last second converts to soccer and ive actually played the game since i was a kid.

We should all be greatful to Johnny Warren and even more to the Wogs (yes im going to be politically incorrect for a second, being the son of a wog myself) for keeping soccer alive in this country.

Oh, and Japan, what you did was naughty, but im over it now :)

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Post by thephantom » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:10 am

YES!

AussieAussieAussie!

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Post by CelebrityTit » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:35 pm

I hope we beat Italy, that would be something else :)

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Post by thephantom » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:24 am

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Post by CelebrityTit » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:05 pm

We were 100% jipped in that game. They need a second umpire because that was an utter BS decision in the last minute of the game. If italians think they deserved winning that game they're deluding themselves. I'm just having a sook but u must admit it was pretty rude :evil:

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Post by Dv8 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:18 pm

Oh well shit happens, the boys can hold their heads high...they did us proud thats for sure :wink:

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Post by aka_Aussie » Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:16 pm

A very disappointing end to a tremendous effort by the Socceroos, A series of such stature should have at least a 2nd referee or a video ref, the only thing the Italians could be proud of would be there Gold Oscar performance in theatrics, particularly disturbing overall was the inconsistent performance by most of the referees in all games, almost to the point that they were the final decision makers to whom made it through, very favourable decisions to the top contending teams :x :x :x

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Post by Shaggie » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:54 pm

I am so proud of the boys and how they took on the World's Elite. They were the far better team against Italy on the day and to be able to say that honestly and at the same time all viewers say the same against a team of world class players such as Italy is truly amazing!

We as a Soccer Nation have earnt respect. Not just as a team with various soccer skills, but as a team and a country who consistently show good sportsmanship and fair play. Now that is a tremendous result. To be recognised amongst your peers, World Media, fans and general audiences like that is truly inspirational and very rewarding.

Well done boys! :)

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Post by CelebrityTit » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:40 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/opinion/09Stille.html. No wonder we lost that game :lol: Dodgey or what.

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Post by Shaggie » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:16 pm

Why not post the quote. I'm sure there are peeps like me who are sick of registering in a hundred different places just to view a stupid journal.

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Post by aka_Aussie » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:55 am

CelebrityTit wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/opinion/09Stille.html. No wonder we lost that game :lol: Dodgey or what.
A Soccer Scandal Made for Television

By ALEXANDER STILLE
Published: July 9, 2006

THROUGHOUT Italy's ride to the World Cup finals, the team has produced moments of beauty, grit and creativity before a cumulative worldwide television audience estimated at 30 billion or more. But lurking ominously behind the Italian team's exploits, and perhaps even driving a desire for redemption through victory, is the scandal that has engulfed Italian soccer for months. It's a scandal born of two elements certain to be on display in today's championship game: the competitor's drive to win and the power of television to shape commerce and culture.

The scandal emerged from within the Italian leagues, where a handful of dominant teams are accused of trying to rig the national sport in order to ensure victory and, as a consequence, command a disproportionate share of television revenues. Indictments by prosecutors in Naples, based in part on thousands of wiretapped conversations, depict executives of the nation's most successful teams bullying and bribing referees to guarantee victory in key matches.

In one alleged instance, Luciano Moggi, the former general director of Turin's team, Juventus, punished uncooperative referees by confining them in a locker room. An executive of A.C. Milan, the team owned by former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, apparently had no such trouble; he can be heard on tape brazenly calling another referee "our man."

That Berlusconi's name should appear prominently in this business is hardly happenstance. If Italian society and Italian soccer resemble each other, it's in part because both have been dominated so thoroughly by him. The richest man in Italy, Berlusconi oversees a vast empire that includes the biggest publishing and movie production companies in the country and a virtual monopoly on commercial television.

When he took over A.C. Milan in 1986, he bought up the best players, then presented his new stars by landing them, via helicopter, in the Milan stadium, accompanied by the blaring strains of Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyrie." Other teams went into debt trying to compete with Berlusconi's showmanship and deep pockets.

While Berlusconi pauperized opponents with one hand, however, he enriched them — or some of them — with the other. He began using his private television company, Mediaset, to bring big money into the game. In the past, Italian soccer had rarely been seen on TV. The state-owned television network, worried that fans might not fill stadiums if they were able to watch matches at home, generally showed only one match per week — and only the second half of that.

Berlusconi's network changed everything, eventually televising several matches a week. Stadiums indeed became emptier. But through rising television revenues, soccer was transformed into one of Italy's biggest businesses, worth about $6 billion a year. And Italian soccer teams now depend more on television revenue than teams in any other major European country. Television led to a winner-take-all economy. Indeed, a group of young Italian economists published a series of economic studies of Italian soccer on the Web site La Voce that more or less predicted the current disaster.

Because networks are almost exclusively interested in broadcasting the matches of big-city teams with national followings (like Turin, Milan and Rome), smaller teams (Como, Brescia and Parma) have received a much smaller piece of the pie. With less revenue from television, these smaller teams have less money available to compete for star players.

It probably didn't help matters that the league chose as its president Adriano Galliani, the head of Berlusconi's team. Not surprisingly, he negotiated a television contract with Berlusconi's network that mainly rewarded A.C. Milan and the other wealthy teams. Even in the throes of scandal, Italian soccer has resisted mechanisms like revenue sharing and salary caps that help to maintain the health of American sports leagues.

Television not only provided incentive for corruption, but some of the venues, as well. Italy's soccer mania is fed by a seemingly endless supply of TV talk shows that dissect and analyze each match, including the behavior of referees. Some of this commentary was allegedly for sale. The host of one of the most popular shows was recently forced to resign after wiretaps revealed him seemingly taking orders from Moggi, the former head of Juventus, on how to talk about a match.

In response to the scandal, there is talk of punishing four teams, including A.C. Milan, by demoting them to the minor leagues. Several important sports figures risk going to jail for their actions and 26 are under indictment. But whether any of this will lead to genuine change is far from certain.

The Italian national team's marvelous World Cup play demonstrates that when players are freed from a corrupt system and allowed to compete fairly, the results can be truly exhilarating. Team Italy has had a beautiful run to the finals. Let's hope that, regardless of who triumphs today, the Italian players don't return home only to resume a tainted and ugly game.

Alexander Stille is the author of "The Sack of Rome: How a Beautiful European Country With a Fabled History and a Storied Culture Was Taken Over by a Man Named Silvio Berlusconi."
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Post by aka_Aussie » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:09 am

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... 82&cc=3436
Juve, Lazio and Fiorentina relegated

Juventus, Lazio, and Fiorentina have been relegated from Serie A as a result of the match-fixing scandal.

AC Milan have avoided relegation, but will start next season with a 15-point deficit, and have had 44 points taken from their tally for the 2005-06 season.

Juventus have been stripped of their Serie A titles for each of the last two seasons. They will start next campaign with a 30-point deficit.

Fiorentina will start in Serie B with a 12-point deficit and Lazio a seven-point deficit.

The rulings mean that none of the four clubs will be allowed to play in Europe next season.

In addition to the punishments handed to the clubs, a number of the individual directors were suspended.

Former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi has been suspended from all football for five years.

Adriano Galliani, who was AC Milan vice-president, has been suspended for one year.

The four clubs will have up to three days to appeal to the Federal Court but a final verdict has to be announced before July 25, when the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) must give UEFA, Europe's football governing body, the list of teams that will compete in the continental club competitions in the 2006/07 campaign.

The scandal was uncovered as a result of a criminal investigation that was launched before the start of the 2004/05 campaign by the Naples prosecutors' office.

Telephone conversations between Moggi and a referees supremo in charge of the appointments of officials during the 2004/05 season were tapped.

Prosecutors based their probe on hundreds of bugged telephone calls between referee selectors, game officials and Moggi.

At the close of trading on Milan's stock exchange on Friday, Lazio shares had dropped 9.68% to 0.28 euros while Juventus went down to 1.45 euros - a fall of 1.15%.

An estimated 500 Lazio fans protested outside Rome's Parco dei Principi hotel as Federal Appeal Commission president Cesare Ruperto read out the verdicts inside.

More than 300 Fiorentina fans met up outside the Artemio Franchi stadium as a sign of protest but it was a different story in Turin with few Juventus supporters turning up at the club's headquarters in Via Galileo Ferraris.

The outcome:
JUVENTUS
Team:
-Relegation to Serie B
-30-point penalty
-2 Serie A championships (2004/05, 2005/06) stripped
-20th place finish in 2004/05 Serie A season
-Ban from 2006/07 UEFA Champions League
Individuals:
-General manager Luciano Moggi banned 5 years
-Former administrator Antonio Giraudo banned 5 years

AC MILAN
Team:
-15-point penalty
-44 points deducted from 2005/06 season, meaning an 11th-place finish
-Ban from 2006/07 UEFA Champions League
Individuals:
-Vice president Adriano Galliani banned 1 year
-Leonardo Meani (attaché to the referees' association) banned for 3.5 years

FIORENTINA
Team:
-Relegation to Serie B
-12-point penalty
-Ban from 2006/07 UEFA Champions League
Individuals:
-President Andrea Della Valle banned 3.5 years
-Honorary president Diego Della Valle banned 4 years

LAZIO
Team:
-Relegation to Serie B
-7-point penalty
-Ban from 2006/07 UEFA Cup
Individuals:
-Chairman Claudio Lotito banned 3 years

FEDERAZIONE ITALIANA GIUOCO CALCIO (Italian FA)
-Former president Franco Carraro banned 4.5 years
-Former vice president Innocenzo Mazzini banned 5 years

REFEREES' ASSOCIATION
-President Tullio Lanese banned 2 years and 1 month
-Paolo Bergamo (responsible for assigning referees) loses jurisdiction
-Pierluigi Pairetto (responsible for assigning referees) banned 2 years and 6 months
-Vice president Gennaro Mazzei banned 1 year
-Observer Pietro Ingargiola officially admonished.

REFEREES
-Massimo De Santis banned 4 years and 6 months
-Paolo Dondarini banned 3 years and 6 months
-Pierluigi Pairetto banned 2 years and 6 months
-Gianluca Paparesta banned 3 months
-Paolo Bertini sacked
-Pasquale Rodomonti sacked
-Domenico Messina sacked
-Gianluca Rocchi sacked
-Paolo Tagliavento sacked

REFEREES' ASSISTANTS
-Claudio Puglisi banned 1 year
-Fabrizio Babini banned 1 year
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